{"id":570,"date":"2018-12-31T20:16:31","date_gmt":"2018-12-31T20:16:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/generic.wordpress.soton.ac.uk\/skywritings\/?p=570"},"modified":"2018-12-31T20:16:31","modified_gmt":"2018-12-31T20:16:31","slug":"the-ever-elusive-causal-status-of-feeling-reply-to-john-campbell-3","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/generic.wordpress.soton.ac.uk\/skywritings\/2018\/12\/31\/the-ever-elusive-causal-status-of-feeling-reply-to-john-campbell-3\/","title":{"rendered":"The Ever-Elusive Causal Status of Feeling: Reply to John Campbell-3"},"content":{"rendered":"

(Reply to John Campbell-3<\/a>)<\/p>\n

JC:<\/strong> “(1) Characterizing the epistemic role of consciousness. In particular, there’s explaining the work that sensory experience does in (a) our having propositional knowledge of our surroundings, knowing that things are thus-and-so around us, and (b) having concepts of the objects and properties in our surroundings, knowing which objects and properties those are<\/em>“<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

The trouble is that each of the mental states you mention has an easy aspect (doing and ability to do) and a hard aspect (feeling). So unless you specify which of the two you are referring to, it is difficult to know what you really mean:<\/p>\n

JC:<\/strong> “(1) Characterizing the epistemic role of consciousness<\/em>“<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

“Epistemic” is equivocal: it could refer to what can be known in the sense of unfelt knowing (doing, and ability to do: easy) or felt knowing (hard). <\/p>\n

And until\/unless there are further arguments to show that the distinction is coherent, a “conscious” state is a state that it feels like something to be in, hence a felt state. <\/p>\n

JC:<\/strong> “In particular, there’s explaining the work that sensory experience does<\/em>” <\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Unfelt sensory system activity (doing, and ability to do: easy) or felt sensory experience (hard)?<\/p>\n

JC:<\/strong> “in (a) our having propositional knowledge of our surroundings<\/em>” <\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Unfelt propositional knowledge (doing and saying, and ability to do and say: easy) or felt knowledge (hard)?<\/p>\n

JC:<\/strong> “knowing that things are thus-and-so around us<\/em>“<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Unfelt knowing (doing, and ability to do: easy) or felt knowing (hard)?<\/p>\n

JC:<\/strong> “and (b) having concepts of the objects and properties in our surroundings<\/em>“<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

I have no idea what “having concepts” means! Does it mean being able to do\/say certain things (easy) or does it also feel like something to have a concept (hard)?<\/p>\n

JC:<\/strong> “knowing which objects and properties those are<\/em>“<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Unfelt knowing (doing, and ability to do: easy) or felt knowing (hard)?<\/p>\n

JC:<\/strong> “(2) Explaining how conscious experience can be realized by a physical system.It seems to me that (1) is not well understood, and that arguably it’s prior to (2)<\/em>“<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

I agree.<\/p>\n

JC:<\/strong> “ I don’t think there’s much hope for a successful assault on (2) unless we have firmly in place a clear conception of exactly what explanatory work the notion of consciousness in general, and of sensory experience in particular, is doing for us<\/em>“<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

I agree. And the hard part is that on the face of it the answer is: none!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

(Reply to John Campbell-3) JC: “(1) Characterizing the epistemic role of consciousness. In particular, there’s explaining the work that sensory experience does in (a) our having propositional knowledge of our surroundings, knowing that things are thus-and-so around us, and (b) having concepts of the objects and properties in our surroundings, knowing which objects and properties … <\/p>\n

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