On Sun, 5 Mar 2000, HARNAD, Stevan wrote:
> One can simulate the rest too, of course, but that produces a virtual
> creature in a virtual world the same way the plane simulation produces
> a virtual plane virtually flying in virtual air (i.e., squiggles and
> squoggles systematically interpretable by US as flying, but in reality
> just squiggling and squoggling). And just as virtual cakes are
> inedible, and virtual fire non-flammable, virtual minds are non-mental!
ok , but you would still have something that could pass T2, wouldn't you? 
as the virutal-real interface  for symbolic  converation is surpassable
isnt it? 
sorry for going round in circles :) 
owen 
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