Comments on: Severn Barrage Vote http://moocs.southampton.ac.uk/oceans/2014/02/14/severn-barrage-vote/ Exploring our Oceans Mon, 04 Jan 2021 05:40:08 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.0.14 By: John Holland http://moocs.southampton.ac.uk/oceans/2014/02/14/severn-barrage-vote/#comment-232026 Sun, 06 Sep 2015 12:28:09 +0000 http://moocs.southampton.ac.uk/oceans/?p=403#comment-232026 Harnessing energy from the movement of the sea is a clear priority over using carbon-based technologies. However all of the environmental concerns need to be addressed and indeed these should take precedence over any human issues. I’m not saying that human concerns or benefits should not be addressed rather that for once non-human factors should take precedence. This may really drive our fantasticly creative engineers to innovate new technologies.

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By: Richard http://moocs.southampton.ac.uk/oceans/2014/02/14/severn-barrage-vote/#comment-82396 Thu, 06 Nov 2014 16:02:51 +0000 http://moocs.southampton.ac.uk/oceans/?p=403#comment-82396 Electrical generation needs some base load capacity. Currently in the UK this is provided by a mix of nuclear and coal, with gas providing capacity to meet swings in demand (eg afternoon weekday peaks) and also to meet swings in supply from wind and solar. Tidal power could provide base load supply and the Severn undoubtably is a good location to consider due to the large tidal range. It may be that some environmental compromise needs to be made here. I think that tidal is much more preferable to coal

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By: Stephen Savage http://moocs.southampton.ac.uk/oceans/2014/02/14/severn-barrage-vote/#comment-81972 Thu, 06 Nov 2014 09:36:43 +0000 http://moocs.southampton.ac.uk/oceans/?p=403#comment-81972 The seven estuary is such a vast area that it may be possible to weigh up all the issues based on the information in the articles. The La Rance Tidal Power Plant suggests it could be possible and while we might temporarily upset the environment it will find its own natural balance and provide a thriving habitat.

I guess a main questions is, while the environment found its own balance this was not the same as what was there before so would the changes that would occur in the seven estuary impact greatly on the existing scientific/conservation benefits of the area. I would guess wading birds (including winter migrants) and the value as a nursery ground for fish and other organisms.

Would this also impact on the human use/activities that take place in the area which probably have a great revenue importance.

I am on the management group of a small nature reserve in Sussex, a shingle spit and a site of rare vegetated shingle habitat. The role is to enhance and restore the habitat while at the same time balance this with public use (it is a public access site) which ranges from sunbathing and swimming to kite surfing and paddle boards. We are usually able to come to agree a situation where we can mange both – but sometimes human activities are too damaging (such as activities that over enrich the shingle) and in these cases we have to prevent certain activities – as this will cause a lasting damage to the habitat.

I guess a similar model applies to estuaries just on a wider scale.

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By: Sharon Gill http://moocs.southampton.ac.uk/oceans/2014/02/14/severn-barrage-vote/#comment-352 Sat, 22 Feb 2014 23:30:19 +0000 http://moocs.southampton.ac.uk/oceans/?p=403#comment-352 I was very interested in your links to geothermal power. The way forward I think. Preferable to fracking which scares me! Too much unknown yet , but Geo thermal seems a good alternative. I have passed the articles on to my son who is starting environmental earth science at ST Andrews or Aberdeen University in September depending on results.

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By: Millie http://moocs.southampton.ac.uk/oceans/2014/02/14/severn-barrage-vote/#comment-329 Mon, 17 Feb 2014 18:47:25 +0000 http://moocs.southampton.ac.uk/oceans/?p=403#comment-329 Hi Chris, I like the phrase “Rapid Climate Weirding”, and I think that following this winters catastrophic flooding, there may be a change in public opinion. I would love to see a time when all roofs were covered in PV panels, especially shopping centres and factories with such vast areas of roof space, and it should be a condition of planning permission were possible. In combination with groundwater pumps, tidal barrages and wind farms, we might go some way to averting the worst impacts of global warming, and more winters like this one.

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By: Chris west http://moocs.southampton.ac.uk/oceans/2014/02/14/severn-barrage-vote/#comment-319 Sun, 16 Feb 2014 21:41:19 +0000 http://moocs.southampton.ac.uk/oceans/?p=403#comment-319 We need all and every approach to decarbonisation – from rooftop pv to large barrages. I can’t see even a full Severn barrage doing as much harm to ecosystem diversity as rapid climate weirding.
Many possibilities of extra features with a full barrage- road&rail bridge, wind turbine base, flood defense, for the estuary and its wildlife as well as the ports and city.
Sorry surfers about the Severn bore, but really, AGW really more important :/

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By: Millie http://moocs.southampton.ac.uk/oceans/2014/02/14/severn-barrage-vote/#comment-317 Sun, 16 Feb 2014 17:10:06 +0000 http://moocs.southampton.ac.uk/oceans/?p=403#comment-317 I would agree about our energy policy, and it resonates with an article in the Guardian this morning about the future (http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/15/ed-miliband-stark-warning-climate-change), although this is more specific to our response about flooding, the “sleepwalking into disaster” quote applies to our energy policy as well. Heat pumps would be an excellent resource for areas in this country with the right geology (this wikipedia page is excellent: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geothermal_power_in_the_United_Kingdom), potentially providing 20% of our electricity needs. It is of course, not without side effects, but it is a valuable resource for us.

There is of course, the more exotic plan from Iceland: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/27/iceland-seeks-uk-funding-cable-project

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By: henry Spencer http://moocs.southampton.ac.uk/oceans/2014/02/14/severn-barrage-vote/#comment-314 Sun, 16 Feb 2014 08:48:47 +0000 http://moocs.southampton.ac.uk/oceans/?p=403#comment-314 Hi Millie
But surely the make do and mend system we have now is far more costly in the long term. I am very much in favour of people being able to produce energy even if it is only a proportion of there needs. I like the idea of heat pumps because of the simple idea of using the earths own heat that is always on tap together with other ways of producing our own energy instead of importing more which could become very political in years to come with countries that supply us. We don’t seam to have a cohesive overall policy on energy.

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By: Millie http://moocs.southampton.ac.uk/oceans/2014/02/14/severn-barrage-vote/#comment-307 Sat, 15 Feb 2014 14:31:02 +0000 http://moocs.southampton.ac.uk/oceans/?p=403#comment-307 It certainly is worthy of investigating. The lagoon option is an intriguing one, and may perhaps represent the most sustainable way forward. Possibly a lower energy output, but with less environmental damage.

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By: Millie http://moocs.southampton.ac.uk/oceans/2014/02/14/severn-barrage-vote/#comment-306 Sat, 15 Feb 2014 14:29:52 +0000 http://moocs.southampton.ac.uk/oceans/?p=403#comment-306 Hi Henry

That is an interesting point, and certainly one to keep track of as the UK clears up after the storms and reviews both our flood management plans and our disaster response. I for one would be in favour of seeing many more smaller power generation options, such as solar panels/small wind turbines on new properties, or even boreholes where the bedrock is suitable, but I think the obstacle to this would be funding. With regard to coast farmlands, I think there will be a new discussion about managed retreat and our options over the next 50 years as we deal with rising sea levels and more frequent storms.

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