Steve:
I am sorry;I am too pressed at this time...and in any event I do not need
more any lectures from Stevan. ( see post below).
The teaching issues/problems (in the UK) are explained in detail at:
http://www.ukcle.ac.uk/copyright/
Alan Story
....................
Stevan:
Sally Morris' note raised the issue of copyright and journals on your list.
And so I responded with a copyright and journals-related response. If you do
not want copyight-related posts, then don't put them on in the first place.
And no lectures, thank you.
Alan Story
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Hitchcock" <sh94r_at_ECS.SOTON.AC.UK>
To: <AMERICAN-SCIENTIST-OPEN-ACCESS-FORUM_at_LISTSERVER.SIGMAXI.ORG>
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: PostGutenberg Copyrights and Wrongs for Give-Away Research
> Alan, For the benefit of authors who may have little knowledge
> of different rights but have probably heard of copyright, can you explain
> briefly what copyright is and why retaining it may be of little use to the
> author, as you suggest, in this example? Most authors will probably assume
> that if they are allowed to retain copyright they are covered for uses
such
> self-archiving, class use, etc.
>
> Comment on hard-copy rights below.
>
> At 10:30 22/06/01 +0100, Alan Story wrote:
> >The ALPSP may call their deal a "model licence"...but instead it should
be
> >called a "Model-T (as in circa 1930 Model-T Ford ) licence."
> >
> >Yes, the author gets the possibility of retaining copyright, but the
> >publisher is assigned (at no cost to the publisher it should be
underlined)
> >ALL of the other rights, including digitalisation rights, re-publication
> >rights, rights regarding non-profit educational uses of the work.
> >
> >Hence, AFTER hard copy publication ( and hence not conflicting with
Harnad's
> >"subversive proposal"), the publisher has the right to prevent any "open
> >archiving" by an author(X) or her/his work and the right to charge the
> >students of X's colleague a copyright royalty fee for the non-profit
> >educational use of that article.
> >
> >In other words, a tiny tad better than the standard contract available
with
> >most commercial publishers...but still a Model T in the contemporary era.
> >
> >Any license should grant only one right to a publisher: a first hard-copy
> >publication right. And not a tad more.
>
> Now that most print journals have e-replicas, I assume such journals would
> be unable to publish those papers for which they were granted only first
> hard-copy right. Correct?
>
> Steve
>
>
>
> >Alan Story
> >Lecturer in IP Law
> >Kent Law School
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Sally Morris" <sec-gen_at_ALPSP.ORG>
> >To: <AMERICAN-SCIENTIST-OPEN-ACCESS-FORUM_at_LISTSERVER.SIGMAXI.ORG>
> >Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 6:00 PM
> >Subject: Re: PostGutenberg Copyrights and Wrongs for Give-Away Research
> >
> >
> > > Perhaps I can set the record straight.
> > >
> > > ALPSP has not (at least in the past 3 years) surveyed journals'
copyright
> > > policies, although in 1998/9, the Association did carry out a study of
> > > journal authors (not publishers) who had recently contributed to a
mixture
> > > of commercial and non-commercial journals. We asked, among other
things,
> > > what they thought about copyright retention. 38.1% felt that
copyright
> > > should be transferred to the society or publisher, but full
redistribution
> > > rights retained by the author. 38% felt that copyright should be
> >retained
> > > by the author, but full publishing rights granted to the society or
other
> > > publisher. 23.4% felt that copyright should be retained by the
author,
> >and
> > > only limited publishing rights granted to the society/publisher.
4.8%
> >felt
> > > copyright should be retained by the author's employer and full
publishing
> > > rights granted to the society/publisher; 2.8% were for copyright
> >retention
> > > by employer, limited rights
> > > to society/publisher. 2.3% were for copyright retention by funding
body,
> > > full publishing rights to society/publisher and 1.2% for copyright
> >retention
> > > by funding body, limited rights to society/publisher. Interestingly,
an
> > > overwhelming 79.5% of respondents did not find that reaching agreement
> >with
> > > publishers about copyright created any obstacle whatever to their
> >publishing
> > > objectives. There is information about the study, links to
presentations
> > > and articles about it and an order form for the complete report, at
> > > http://www.alpsp.org/pub1.htm
> > >
> > > As a result, however, of the indication that more than 60% of authors
> >(more,
> > > in fact, in the Humanities than in the Sciences) felt the author
should
> > > retain copyright, ALPSP has since developed and published a model
'grant
> >of
> > > licence' document which publishers might use to enable authors to
retain
> > > copyright, while granting to the publisher all the rights it needs.
This
> > > document can be found at http://www.alpsp.org/grantli.pdf, and an
> >editorial
> > > about it at
> > > http://www.alpsp.org/cpyauth.pdf.
> > >
> > > Sally
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Sally Morris, Secretary-General
> > > Association of Learned and Professional Society Publishers
> > > South House, The Street, Clapham, Worthing, West Sussex BN13 3UU, UK
> > >
> > > Phone: 01903 871686 Fax: 01903 871457 E-mail: sec-gen_at_alpsp.org
> > > ALPSP Website http://www.alpsp.org
> > >
> > > Learned Publishing is now online, free of charge, at
> > > www.learned-publishing.org
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Guillermo Julio Padron Gonzalez" <guillermo.padron_at_cigb.edu.cu>
> > > To: <AMERICAN-SCIENTIST-OPEN-ACCESS-FORUM_at_LISTSERVER.SIGMAXI.ORG>
> > > Sent: 31 May 2001 20:59
> > > Subject: Re: PostGutenberg Copyrights and Wrongs for Give-Away
Research
> > >
> > >
> > > > Fytton Rowland wrote:
> > > > > A recent survey by the (UK) Association of Learned and
Professional
> > > Society
> > > > > Publishers showed that a majority (about 70%, from memory) of the
> > > journals
> > > > > surveyed did not insist on outright transfer of copyright; they
mostly
> > > > > asked for it, but would not refuse to publish a paper if the
author
> > > > > insisted on granting only a right of first publication.
> > > >
> > > > Could you provide us with the reference of the original paper?
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Guillermo
> > > >
> > > > Dr Guillermo J Padron
> > > > Executive Editor
> > > > Elfos Scientiae
> > > > P.O. Box 6072
> > > > Havana 6, Cuba
> > > > Telephones: (53-7) 33-1917 / 21-8008
> > > > Fax (53-7) 33-1917 / 21-8070
> > > > E-mail: gjpg_at_cigb.edu.cu <mailto:gjpg_at_cigb.edu.cu>
> > > > URL: http://www.elfosscientiae.com.cu
> > >
>
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