On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 11:28:04AM +0100, Sally Morris wrote:
> Most are from their own server
not enough ... I want my papers to be reproducible on other servers
than my own.
> and the period varies from publisher to publisher.
...
bernard
> Sally
>
> Sally Morris, Secretary-General
> Association of Learned and Professional Society Publishers
> South House, The Street, Clapham, Worthing, West Sussex BN13 3UU, UK
>
> Phone: 01903 871686 Fax: 01903 871457 E-mail: sec-gen_at_alpsp.org
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>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bernard Lang" <Bernard.Lang_at_INRIA.FR>
> To: <AMERICAN-SCIENTIST-OPEN-ACCESS-FORUM_at_LISTSERVER.SIGMAXI.ORG>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 6:26 PM
> Subject: Re: ALPSP statement on BOAI
>
>
> > On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 06:21:47PM +0100, Sally Morris wrote:
> > > There have been various comments on our Association's reaction to the
> > > Budapest Open Access Initiative. Our response seems to have been
> > > somewhat misunderstood: we do not oppose initiatives which advocate the
> > > widest possible access to information - far from it, since dissemination
> > > is part of the mission of most of our member societies. However, we
> > > believe that it is essential that a business model is first found which
> > > will pay for all the elements which researchers value. Contrary to
> > > Stevan's view, researchers - as authors and as readers - do value very
> > > highly the whole spectrum of functions which publishers traditionally
> > > perform, and not just peer review itself. Our latest, recently
> > > completed, research study established very high ratings for all of the
> > > following (listed in order of importance): management (as distinct from
> > > execution) of the peer review process; selection of relevant and
> > > quality-controlled content; gathering articles together to enable
> > > browsing of relevant and quality-controlled content; content editing
> > > and improvement of articles; language or copy-editing; checking of
> > > citations/adding citation links; and (even) marketing (maximising
> > > visibility of journal). Respondents predominantly believe that
> > > libraries should continue to pay for these processes in some way, and
> > > clearly more thinking and experimentation is urgently needed both on
> > > viable alternative business models, and on the potential migration path
> > > towards these. Interestingly, other than in physics, respondents mostly
> > > had little or no idea what we meant by preprint or eprint archives.
> > > The full results of the study, Authors and Electronic Publishing, will
> > > be available for sale very shortly and details will appear on our
> > > website, http://www.alpsp.org
> > >
> > > One small clarification - Bernard Lang was under the impression that
> > > members only permitted free archival access to authors. This is not
> > > what I meant; a growing number of our member publishers make their
> > > online archival volumes freely accessible to all after a certain period.
> >
> > on their own archive ? ...
> > and what is that period ?
> >
> > publishers' archives is not enough for me ... first, how do I know
> > these archives will stay open the day W decides I am part of the evil
> > axis ?
> > Yes this is politics ... all we are talking about is also
> > politics, even when we do not say so.
> >
> > I want literature to move around. To be indexable, searchable,
> > processable by anyone, with whatever tool one choses.
> >
> > and experimentation on new models, not just business but also
> > alternatives on all the steps of the scientific publishing activity
> > is only possible if the litterature is freely accessible and movable.
> >
> > I do care, very much, about the referreeing process. But I do
> > believe that numerisation allows many interesting variants that should
> > be experimented with (and how can I do that if recent papers are not
> > accessible). And the same goes for any other step you care to
> > consider.
> >
> > Cordialement
> >
> > Bernard
> >
> > > Sally
> > >
> > > Sally Morris, Secretary-General
> > > Association of Learned and Professional Society Publishers
> > > South House, The Street, Clapham, Worthing, West Sussex BN13 3UU, UK
> > >
> > > Phone: 01903 871686 Fax: 01903 871457 E-mail: sec-gen_at_alpsp.org
> > > ALPSP Website http://www.alpsp.org
> > >
> > > Learned Publishing is now online, free of charge, at
> > > www.learned-publishing.org
> >
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