N. Miradon <nmiradon _at_YAHOO.FR> wrote:
> Lent is a time for reflection and for self-criticism. Today, 4 March, is
> the
> second Sunday in Lent.
Oui, prenons le temps de refl�chir et faisons notre auto-critique. Je
dirais donc que pour juger du progr�s d'un mouvement il ne faut pas
s'arr�ter au moment o� on le d�couvre, mais il faut regarder aussi d'o�
l'on vient. Voir le Timeline of the Open Access Movement de Peter Suber
�
http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/fos/timeline.htm
[Yes, let us take this time for reflection and self-analysis. To
judge the progress of a movement, one should not stop at the point
when one first discovers it, but look also at where it comes
from. See Peter Suber's Timeline of the Open Access Movement]
http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/fos/timeline.htm
> I reflect that the Open Access movement has not been idle. But I conclude
> that results have fallen very short.
>
> This Forum has been busy. In 2007, fifty three persons have already posted
> 257 messages (59.890 lines of text). In 2006 one hundred and thirty one
> people posted 869 messages (160.661 lines of text) - though 431 of those
> messages (72.719 lines) came from one person. But most of this was
> sectarian
> debate between OA-Gold-believers, and OA-Green-believers, and
> OA-other-believers. The debate failed to reach the agnostics, the don't
> knows, and the don't cares.
Pour ceux qui ne le savent pas il faut rappeler qu'Open Access Forum existe
depuis 1998. Une analyse des messages de cette liste limit�e
� 2006 et 2007 ne veut pas dire grand chose. En revanche les agnostiques
touch�s et convertis (peut-�tre gr�ce � cette liste) ont �t� nombreux
depuis 5 ans.
[The American Scientist Open Access Forum exists since Septmber 1998: An
analysis of 2006-7 messages alone does not mean much. In contrast, the
the agnostics since informed and converted (perhaps because of this Forum)
have been numerous during the course of the past 5 years).]
La preuve en est que la p�tition pour le libre Acc�s de la Budapest Open
Access Inititative
http://www.soros.org/openaccess/ lanc�e en 2002,
a recueilli 4700 signatures en un an et la p�tition de Bruxelles en
2007 a recueilli ce m�me nombre en moins d'une semaine (a d�pass� 20.000
en un mois)..
[The proof is that the petition of the Budapest Open Access Initiative
http://www.soros.org/openaccess/ launched in 2002 drew 4700 signatures
in a year, whereas the Brussels EC petition in 2007 drew that many in less
than a week (and exceeded 20,000 within a month).]
> There was a Petition for guaranteed public access to publicly-funded
> research results. 1.763.995 of Europe's 1.786.971 researchers have still
> not
> signed.
>
> There was a "Communication from the European Commission to the European
> Parliament, the Council and the European Economic and Social Committee on
> Scientific Information in the Digital Age: Access, Dissemination and
> Preservation". The OA movement completely failed to comprehend the
> Commission's strategy and tactics.
>
> Therefore the following day, when the European Commission held a vast and
> expensive conference on "Scientific information in the digital age", the
> new
> and concrete results were - nothing.
>
> For the debate in the European Council, the Open Access movement has
> prepared - nothing.
>
> For the debate in the European Parliament, the Open Access movement has
> prepared - nothing.
l'Europe n'est pas la seule engag�e dans la reflexion sur le Libre
Acc�s. La communication scientifique n'est pas du domaine exclusif de
l'Europe : elle est mondiale et il y a eu depuis longtemps, beaucoup
d'autres manifestations et beaucoup de d�cisions politiques dans
diff�rents pays voir Conferences and Workshops Related to The Open
Access Movement
http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/fos/conf.htm
[Europe is not alone in contemplating OA. Research communication is not
unique to Europe: it is international, and there have been for some
time many initiatives and political decisions in many countries worldwide:
Conferences and Workshops Related to The Open
Access Movement
http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/fos/conf.htm ]
Le progr�s pour l'OA m�me s'il est trop lent est indiscutable. Mais
pour certains le verre sera toujours � moiti� vide et pour d'autres �
moiti� plein.
[OA progress, even if still too slow, is undeniable. The rest is
just about whether one sees the current cup as half-empty or half-full.]
H�l�ne Bosc
Euroscience Member
http://www.euroscience.org/
Convenor of the workgroup on scientific publishing
http://www.euroscience.org/WGROUPS/SC_PUBLISHING/index.htm
----- Original Message -----
From: "N. Miradon" <nmiradon_at_YAHOO.FR>
To: <AMERICAN-SCIENTIST-OPEN-ACCESS-FORUM_at_LISTSERVER.SIGMAXI.ORG>
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 8:29 AM
Subject: Lentern reflections on the OA year
> Lent is a time for reflection and for self-criticism. Today, 4 March, is
> the
> second Sunday in Lent.
>
> I reflect that the Open Access movement has not been idle. But I conclude
> that results have fallen very short.
>
> This Forum has been busy. In 2007, fifty three persons have already posted
> 257 messages (59.890 lines of text). In 2006 one hundred and thirty one
> people posted 869 messages (160.661 lines of text) - though 431 of those
> messages (72.719 lines) came from one person. But most of this was
> sectarian
> debate between OA-Gold-believers, and OA-Green-believers, and
> OA-other-believers. The debate failed to reach the agnostics, the don't
> knows, and the don't cares.
>
> There was a Petition for guaranteed public access to publicly-funded
> research results. 1.763.995 of Europe's 1.786.971 researchers have still
> not
> signed.
>
> There was a "Communication from the European Commission to the European
> Parliament, the Council and the European Economic and Social Committee on
> Scientific Information in the Digital Age: Access, Dissemination and
> Preservation". The OA movement completely failed to comprehend the
> Commission's strategy and tactics.
>
> Therefore the following day, when the European Commission held a vast and
> expensive conference on "Scientific information in the digital age", the
> new
> and concrete results were - nothing.
>
> For the debate in the European Council, the Open Access movement has
> prepared - nothing.
>
> For the debate in the European Parliament, the Open Access movement has
> prepared - nothing.
>
> Sadly
>
> N. Miradon
>
>
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