To most people it would be a contradiction to say 
that a machine has a mind or that human beings are machines. 
I suppose that was what lead to the search for the 
definitions of mind and machine in the first place.
People have said different things, e.g. that 
machines are devices made by human beings, that they have 
spesific uses etc. 
I'll start with myself: I do (for some reason) 
believe that I have a mind (and not just a brain..) This 
notion is probably a culturally imposed "truth" by which I 
define myself. And if I think about it, this mind is 
certainly something that is "man-made" through socialization 
and everyday interaction. If I had been born, brought up and 
educated in a different culture I might not even have the 
academic-cultural background to engage in this discussion!
Further,I don't really believe that human beings 
have many "original! thoughts,- all we've got is an enormous 
pool of information, knowledge and experiences that we can 
mix together and get some semi-original output from,- but 
all this is "given" to us from the world by which we are 
surrounded,- so my mind is made (even if unintentionally) by 
the social world around me, and would therefore by some 
people's definition qualify as a machine....
So I guess my conclusion is that there is no contradiction 
between something both being a machine and having a mind 
because the mind IS a machine! (But only if you believe that 
a machine is defined by being man-made) If you believe that 
a human organism is a machine, I should think that the mind 
would be a part of this and could still be defined as a 
machine....
But I do not believe that we could ever find out what a mind 
really is (it would be too complex for us to understand) and 
even if we did we would not be able to "construct" one 
because it is not made out of "substances" we know...
Is it a contradiction to believe that my mind to some extent 
is a machine but not believe that this particular machine 
could ever be understood or reproduced?
Confused! Aaste Herheim
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